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Who really is the hero of the Survival arc?
Topic Started: May 3 2017, 04:46 AM (1,451 Views)
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Kblo247
May 4 2017, 02:53 AM
Clearin
May 4 2017, 02:08 AM
Goku because he single handily stopped Zeno from destroying 8 universes and made it only 7. Goku just saved an entire universe worth of people, praise Goku.
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- Zeno forgot about the tourney, he reminded him

- Goku is the single reason why there are two of them

- We see a future many years ahead of time in Trunks world and Gowasu time travel with the rings to look at their future and universes aren't destroyed yet in what would be Gokus lifetime

- Beerus and Whis warned him out right.

- Goku isn't even giving his own universe its best fighting chance by not telling Vegeta the truth. Vegeta is the same guy who pushed himself in sixth months over Black and everyone because he wanted to protect a son that isn't even really his. What the hell do you think he would do for his own Bulma, Trunks, and Bra training wise?

- Goku is holding out on 18 and Krillin too which is stupid when you see hey have both improved. If Krillin could push his a*** to transform into a ssj and 18 is stronger and knows about his training, we can't ignore they could be bososted in Super with a gravity chamber or ROSAT or old Kai boost themselves to another tier.

Goku literally slapped a hornet nest because he felt like it. We saw in two futures Zeno hasn't erased everything. He chose to get he other one and bring hem to his world. He chose to lie to their strongest weapon who is absolutely ruthless and has no qualms going for a kill to protect his family in Vegeta. He's lied to Krillin and 18 despite knowing they could both jump tiers even more so, hell everyone could. Dendes ROSAT has no time or people limit. Imagine a scenario where all of them as powered up as they are right now, even takes 2 hours to go into the ROSAT together as that is a month to prep as individuals and as a team!
I was just making a joke. But it'll be fun to answer these anyway.

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- Zeno forgot about the tourney, he reminded him

That just means that 8 universes were going to die, and Goku made it 7. Zeno was always gonna just destroy 8 of them. Heck when we see him and the other Zeno playing a board game with planets, maybe he was in the middle of doing it right then.

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- Goku is the single reason why there are two of them

What does that affect? One Zeno alone is supposedly enough to wipe out all 12 universes.

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- We see a future many years ahead of time in Trunks world and Gowasu time travel with the rings to look at their future and universes aren't destroyed yet in what would be Gokus lifetime

I'll give you this one, since it means that, assuming the universes are destroyed as soon as they lose the tournament, that Goku sped up the process. Although personally I still think the entire thing is a lie by Zeno for a good fight. But we'll see.

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- Beerus and Whis warned him out right.

Let's be honest, Goku has pretty good reason to believe they're exaggerating. The same situation happened with Beerus, with Kaio warning him not to engage with him. In the end Goku and Beerus became "friends", Goku and Vegeta got a new teacher and Goku even arguably made Beerus less evil.

From Goku's point of view, Zeno just seems like one of those guys who everyone is afraid of because they don't try to become friends with him. Zeno has always been super nice to Goku, and what's the worst Goku has seen Zeno do? Destroy a universe that was literally getting infected by an immortal God, and even that was something Goku himself ASKED him to take care of.

Goku had no reason to believe this tournament would be anything more or less than a regular tournament.

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- Goku isn't even giving his own universe its best fighting chance by not telling Vegeta the truth. Vegeta is the same guy who pushed himself in sixth months over Black and everyone because he wanted to protect a son that isn't even really his. What the hell do you think he would do for his own Bulma, Trunks, and Bra training wise?

- Goku is holding out on 18 and Krillin too which is stupid when you see hey have both improved. If Krillin could push his a*** to transform into a ssj and 18 is stronger and knows about his training, we can't ignore they could be bososted in Super with a gravity chamber or ROSAT or old Kai boost themselves to another tier.

It's Gohan and Beerus who are against telling anyone, for whatever reason. Without them around Goku seems completely fine to tell people about it, since he told Piccolo and #17. Goku wanted to tell Krillin and #18 but Gohan told him not to. If you wanna blame anyone for this, blame Gohan and Beerus.

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He chose to get he other one and bring hem to his world.

Well he had told Zeno he would bring him a friend (Which he only did at the time because he knew he had to leave to stop Black).

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He chose to lie to their strongest weapon who is absolutely ruthless and has no qualms going for a kill to protect his family in Vegeta.

Killing would get Vegeta, and possibly his team, disqualified, so if Vegeta has no qualms against killing, then trying to make Vegeta believe there's no reason to kill WOULD be the best solution.
Edited by Clearin, May 4 2017, 12:40 PM.
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